Comments on: Continued observations on petrol pains http://theaestheticelevator.com/2008/06/03/continued-observations-on-petrol-pains/ For a well-considered visual environment Tue, 22 May 2012 01:23:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: TAE http://theaestheticelevator.com/2008/06/03/continued-observations-on-petrol-pains/#comment-12125 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:46:49 +0000 http://theaestheticelevator.wordpress.com/?p=942#comment-12125 Good points all.

One thing not mentioned though is the matter of sustainability. Yes, people in the industry keep talking about how much more oil there is to be had from the Earth, but even so is that the best option? And what if they’re wrong? Should we be pursuing more long-lasting options that also make the global warming mongers happy?

Just a few more thoughts for breakfast , , ,

]]> By: eucharisto http://theaestheticelevator.com/2008/06/03/continued-observations-on-petrol-pains/#comment-12124 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:19:52 +0000 http://theaestheticelevator.wordpress.com/?p=942#comment-12124 Here’s the answer. 60 mpg? Gas guzzler.

]]> By: Tim J. http://theaestheticelevator.com/2008/06/03/continued-observations-on-petrol-pains/#comment-12123 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:39:08 +0000 http://theaestheticelevator.wordpress.com/?p=942#comment-12123 The thing is, I remember the last oil crunch (Eisenhower was president when I was born… I’m old) and people made the same kind of lifestyle adjustments then. Detroit began making cruddy little cars made of foil and imports gained ground.

It was amazing how fast people went back to their old ways after oil prices settled back down. Hope we’re smarter this time.

I’m hypermiling, and so I’m getting at least 35mph in my Neon, but I’m also interested in this new bike trail from Bentonville to Fayetteville. I don’t think I could do my commute that way (it’s about 70 miles, round trip) but I’d like to make the trip once, for fun. Gotta keep taking off the weight, though.

]]> By: eucharisto http://theaestheticelevator.com/2008/06/03/continued-observations-on-petrol-pains/#comment-12122 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:43:33 +0000 http://theaestheticelevator.wordpress.com/?p=942#comment-12122 Well, as for me, I’m going to need a car no matter what. Any transition to centralized, urban-focused cities, and away from suburban sprawl will probably take decades. In the meantime, where I live north of Colorado Springs, it’s a fifteen mile drive minimum to any meaningful activities, including church. I also do a lot of traveling, and driving in a subcompact econobox is actually becoming cost-effective against flying, for longer trips, which I’ve had a lot of lately (unless of course we ever get a good high-speed rail here, which again will take years and years to build). I’ve considered selling my Ford Focus, which is good, but only gets about 26-29 mpg here at higher altitudes in CO, for a used Corolla or Civic HX, which will get upwards of 40 mpg. I measured it out, and that’s approx. a savings of over $600 per year. Not mind-blowing, but still very tempting, and as I highly dislike large cars anyway, I’d probably stick with it no matter what happens at the pump.

If I ever do move where it is reasonable to bike, or better yet, just walk, I’ll switch to that.

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